Meaningful change
Change doesn’t fail because people hate change. It fails because leaders skip the hard conversations, managers get left behind, and everyone else is expected to figure it out from a single email.
I’m joined by Julie Gawle, a senior change advisor and change communication advisor at Meaningful Change Consulting, to unpack what actually drives adoption during organizational change and digital transformation. Julie shares how a theater background led her into project management and then into the “people side” of change management, where emotions, uncertainty, and trust determine whether a strategy survives contact with the real world. We talk about why transformational change requires leadership alignment, how competing initiatives can create instant confusion, and what it means to lead from the mindset of an agent of change.
We also get practical about change communication: why “email is enough” is a myth, how to find the right cadence without overwhelming people, and why culture should shape your approach. Julie breaks down layered alignment (understanding without forced agreement), the bell curve of resistance, and how to leverage early adopters as change champions while focusing your energy on the influenceable middle. If you’ve ever struggled with stakeholder analysis, impact assessment, or getting managers ready to translate strategy into day-to-day reality, this conversation will sharpen your playbook.
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